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    September 2, 2010
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good evening. we begin with breaking news, which will affect millions of people on the east coast this holiday weekend. hurricane earl upgraded to a category 4 storm, fast approaching the east coast. the national hurricane center says its direction is relentless. those were their words, with sustained winds nearly 135 miles an hour. look at that storm. the strength of that eye. a hurricane hunter recorded a wind gust above storm surface at 199 miles per hour. we're going to bring in chad myers in a moment. take a look at this other image we've gotten of earl from the international space station. you can see the eye there in the center, right now about 500 miles south-southeast off north carolina. there are warnings and watches up and down the east coast of the united states and north carolina, mandatory evacuations have now been ordered in several communities, including hatteras island and the outer banks, popular destination for the upcoming labor day weekend. concerned by local officials is that people will not heed the
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warnings because they don't think it will be a direct hit. let's bring in chad myers, who is closely tracking the storm. 199 miles an hour, unbelievable. >> hurricane hunter aircraft in there called miss piggy. they're kind of all named by the muppets. anyway, it's been flying back and forget. a few moments ago, it flew right through the eye. as it flew through the eye it dropped a weather balloon, but it doesn't go up, it goes down. it has to drop down. they're flying. it found a gust on the way down to 199 miles per hour. that's literally like nascar at its fastest racetrack going around in a circle right there in the center of the eye. the storm, and it's the word you used and so did the hurricane center, relentless. it hasn't stopped moving from east to the northwest. it has been doing the same thing for days. it's forecast to be turning this way, turning this way. it just hasn't done it. all the models are saying turn, turn, turn. i'm not turning yet. finally, tonight, finally, we begin to see a slight edge, a
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slight turn to the north. is it soon enough? at this point, we really don't know. if it's not soon enough, a category 3, 115-mile-per-hour or stronger storm will slam into the outer banks of north carolina right through here somewhere. if it does turn in time, it will stay out to sea. the difference is, it's still 120 miles per hour, 150 miles per hour. if it's a 15, 20-mile miss, that's still a hit. you're still going to get damage. you're still going to get overwash. those outer bands and outer banks will get overwashed with rain and surge and the rip currents all along the east coast will be absolutely deadly. what is this weekend? labor day. people are going to want to be in the water. it's going to be dangerous. >> you're looking at an impact basically all along the east coast over the course of, what, we're talking from thursday late night -- >> yes.
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>> -- through friday? >> thursday tomorrow 2:00. here is friday morning, late. after midnight thursday night into friday morning. its closest approach to north carolina or right onshore north carolina, if it moves a little bit to the left. here is friday afternoon and then here is saturday afternoon. so, it really picks up speed as it moves to the north. cape cod right there, that will be some time friday afternoon, your closest approach to maybe say nantucket or so. it really starts to pick up forward speed by tuesday afternoon. but the winds, i think -- we're going to get an update. i don't want to get ahead of myself. but probably around 10:45, 10:50 i'll be back here. i think they will upgrade this thing even higher. not to a cat 5, but above 135 with the winds they're finding with that hurricane hunter aircraft, it's a big storm. >> we'll check back in with you when you get the update. several north carolina communities have ordered already mandatory evacuations, morehead city. gerald jones jr. is the mayor there.
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i want to put up the radar so you get a picture while we talk to mayor jones. how concerned are you that people think this thing will veer off and, therefore, will not heed mandatory evacuations? >> are you talking to me now? >> yes. i'm sorry, mr. mayor. >> yes, this is mayor gerald jones. we have warned carter county and the outer banks islands and we hope people heed our orders. even though we declare a mandatory evacuation, it is still totally voluntary to the residents whether they leave or not. what is more important to us and, as you mentioned, this is labor day weekend, which is a very large tourism weekend for us. we have to err on the side of safety now and make sure our tourists understand the impact, the dangers of this hurricane and encourage them to go back
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home or not to come until the evacuation is lifted. >> this was the exact situation -- obviously it's a different kind of storm -- that new orleans was facing before hurricane katrina and the mayor there delayed mandatory evacuation for that very reason. he was concerned about affecting tourism. you made the decision, though -- it's a tough decision, because it can impact on tourist dollars and obviously on residents' lives. how many people are in your city? >> oh, in my city is about 10,000 people. in carter county we have about 60. during the tourism season we have about 180,000. >> how bad are you expecting it to get? what have you been told by your folks? >> well, we've been -- we have a control group, which is all the mayors of the county plus the chairman of the county commissioner, plus our emergency management teams. and we also have had representatives from the national hurricane center here. and just like you, we keep watching the updates and trying to make decisions based on the
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information given to us. but the last update that we had around 7:00, they still expect the storm. it might jog and make landfall, but we really expect it to stay offshore about 60 miles. keep in mind this storm is 300 miles across. we're definitely going to feel tropical storm winds, no doubt. there's a strong chance we'll feel hurricane force winds. >> mr. mayor, i wish your community the best and appreciate you talking with us. we'll have an update, as i said, just -- probably in the next 30 or 40 minutes or so, bring that to you when we can. gerald jones, thank you very much, mr. mayor. we'll continue to track the storm and check back with chad myers later. live chat is up and running, as always, at ac360.com. you can talk to viewers around the world or around the united states watching. more breaking news tonight. police still searching the headquarters for discovery television, sweeping -- looking for explosives. a man who had a beef against the discovery channel and basically
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humankind itself held three people hostage today till police shot him dead. his name was james lee. we'll take a look at what made him tick. his rants online are bizarre. we'll also hear his voice when he was called, actually, inside headquarters. we have the tape of that. some early answers about why he did what he did. also ahead, keeping them honest. why would anyone be against some efforts to stop schoolyard bullying? you'll hear one group's explanation. we'll talk about that with people on all sides of the issue. you talk to these guys. they go through every car and truck we make with a big fat red pencil. because they know a family's going to be inside. a teenager. a guy on the way to the job. the engineers of chevrolet. just another reason why we can offer a 5-year 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. and another reason why a chevy's a chevy.
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breaking news also tonight in silver spring, maryland, just outside washington, d.c., where police are still scouring the headquarters of the discovery channel building, looking for bombs or explosive devices. that's because it was the scene today of a hostage drama for several hours, the building stormed by an armed man who held three people at gunpoint. his name, we now know, is james lee. he linked to a rant posted on the internet in which he called civilization filthy and demanded that all programs on discovery stop encouraging what he called, and i quote, the birth of any more parasitic human infants.
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in a bizarre moment, a chilling moment, while the standoff with police was under way, a producer at nbc news called the discovery channel and, incredibly, mr. lee picked up the phone and calmly issued a deadly threat. listen. >> do you have a gun? >> i have a gun and i have a bomb. i have several bombs strapped to my body, ready to go off. >> in the end, lee was killed by police. the hostages were freed unharmed. tom foreman takes a look at how it all unfolded. >> reporter: 1:00 pm, seven miles from capitol hill in the washington suburb of silver spring. police say a man walks into the lobby of the discovery channel, waving a pistol, metallic canisters strapped to his body, telling everyone not to move. one witness says she hears a shot. another calls police. workers begin sounding the alarm throughout the building. 1:21, company officials send an e-mail, urging employees to, quote, seek protection in a
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locked office. some do, but most of the 1,900 workers evacuate, slipping out through passageways that bypass the lobby. children from a daycare center inside the building also are hustled away, but some people are trapped in the lobby with the gunman. police surround the building. the standoff begins. >> there are heavily armed police officers surrounding the building. police cars. i see an armored vehicle. >> reporter: 2:20, an hour and 20 minutes after the gunman entered the building, police confirm their tactical team has him in their sights and will later say they were also watching him through security cameras while other officers are trying to negotiate with him by cell phone. much remains unclear. >> there may be some other potential devices with him. >> reporter: a short while later, a law enforcement source identifies the man as james lee, who has clashed with the
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discovery channel before, demanding attention for his ideas about humans and nature. negotiators keep talking but will later say he has wild mood swings during their conversation. >> during this past hour the negotiators would be trying to calm him down emotionally, to try to de-escalate the potential for violence, to try to convince him that there's a way to resolve this without nobody else being hurt or without anybody being hurt at all and try to end this peacefully. >> reporter: it does not work. police say at approximately 4:50 p.m., nearly four hours after lee entered the building, a sniper shoots. >> the suspect was shot by police officers. the -- a device appeared to go off. >> reporter: three hostages, that's all there were, are rushed to safety while police secure the building and deal with what they believe are other possible explosives the suspect brought in backpacks. in the whole ordeal no one other than the gunman is hurt.
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but just before 6:00 p.m., police confirm he is dead. >> tom, what's the latest on the search at the discovery building? and also i understand you have new information about the actual shooting. >> let's talk about the search first, anderson. as you mentioned, it's still going on. our crews are on the scene there. police are still securing this building, making sure there are no other problems. we did hear a couple of booms a little while ago. we don't know what those are. it would be in keeping with the sort of operation that that might be the destruction of suspicious packages, and there are backpacks as he brought inside. police are quite concerned about that, they made it clear. also, anderson, though, the actual moment in which this man was shot by police has had a little confusion about it. initially, police said one of the hostages tried to move or moved in some fashion and that this man pulled his pistol and pointed it at the hostage. that's when they shot him. a later version of the story from the police said that some of the tactical people around heard some sharp pops like explosions or gunshots and felt
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they had to move in. that's when they moved in and shot him. it seems like there's simply some confusion over that right now, anderson. although of course there will be a lot of questions to make sure that's cleared up to see what really happened. >> a lot of scary moments today, just watching this thing unfold. tom, appreciate the reporting. >> as tom mentioned, you heard in that clip james lee talking on the phone. hostage negotiators discovered they were dealing with a really volatile guy. beyond that, though, we wanted to find out what we could about this guy, lee. amber lyons has been working that angle. amber, tell us what you've learned. >> reporter: well, good evening, anderson. before we get into 43-year-old james lee, i just want to mention that in the past hour we've heard four loud pops coming from the direction of the discovery communications building, which is a couple of blocks over my shoulder. we don't quite know yet what they were, but they did sound like explosions going off. but now let's get into 43-year-old james lee. we spoke with a forensic psychologist earlier today, dr. helen morrison, and she says she compares lee's behavior to that
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of ted kaczynski, the unabomber. she says based on his writings and his attitude it seems like he had some type of a paranoid disorder accompanied with rage and that rage was definitely directed at discovery communications. apparently, lee felt that this network wasn't doing enough to save the planet. he even wrote an online manifesto. in that manifesto lee calls for the network to completely overhaul its programming and change it to shows that do not promote or glorify human birth. he even calls human babies at one point disgusting in the manifesto, and lee seemed to be very, very concerned about overpopulation. he also was very concerned with wildlife. i want to read you a quote from this manifesto. it says, "nothing is more important than saving them, the lions, tigers, giraffes, elephants, froggies, turtles, apes, raccoons, beetles, ants, sharks, bears and, of course, the squirrels." we spoke with some people that
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hung out at a coffee shop near the discovery communications building. they say lee would often come in there wearing green-colored, military-style clothing, as if he was ready to go to battle. he would wear that type of garb every single day. they also say one thing was for sure. he would always be ranting and raving about that network. >> so what do you mean when you say you knew something wasn't right? >> well, his opinions about things. we couldn't understand why he hated the discovery channel. we just couldn't figure that out. >> every single day he was talking about how much he hated the discovery channel? >> yes, every day. something about children, having overpopulation of children. he had a problem with that as well. >> did anyone at borders say what the heck are you doing, mr. lee, and start arguing with him? >> there were discussions, yes. there were a lot of people that said he's just crazy and blew it off. things of that nature. >> certainly seems crazy. he has been arrested before outside discovery, right? didn't he protest there? >> reporter: yeah.
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he had a protest, anderson. it was quite strange for police. they say that lee was throwing thousands of dollars of cash into the air and it created quite a bit of a ruckus and they charged him with disorderly conduct and he was ordered to stay away from that discovery communications building. anderson? >> unbelievable. amber lyon, appreciate the reporting. thanks. up next, keeping them honest. the group focus on the family says anti-bullying efforts in schools are being used to push what they call a pro-gay agenda on kids. you're going to hear the woman making that charge from the organization she says is behind it and a nationally acclaimed expert on school bullying. later a new video from down in the mine where 33 men are trapped in chile. new efforts to make a hole underground feel like home. we'll be right back. thanks to the venture card from capital one,
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we talked a lot on this program about the problem of bullying in schools. we've covered the deaths of a number of kids who've actually
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taken their own lives after being relentlessly bullied. you may remember carl joseph walker-hoover. he's there on the left. he was in the sixth grade. students taunted him, saying he acted gay. he hanged himself. he was just 11 years old. jaheem herrera, also age 11, same kind of taunts. he also hanged himself. so did ryan halligan, bullied, taunted by the girls, called a loser. eric mohat bullied again and again until one day he took a gun from his father's dresser drawer and turned it on himself. all too often as we have seen parents of kids who've been bullied find that schools don't take the problem seriously enough. here's what carl's mother said recently on capitol hill. >> i did everything that a parent is supposed to do. i chose a good school. i joined the pto. i went to every parent-teacher conference. i called the school regularly and i brought the bullying problem to their staff's attention. the school did not act. the teachers did not know how to respond.
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>> right now, there's legislation making its way through congress, safe schools improvement act, defining bullying of conduct placing students in reasonable fear of physical harm, conduct based on race, color, national origin, disability, religion, sex, or sexual orientation. all standard characteristics for civil rights legislation. but a conservative group, focus on the family, is objecting to the bill saying that gay activists are using the bullying issue to push their agenda in the schools. joining us is candi cushman of focus on the family, eliza byard executive director of the gay lesbian and straight educational network, and roslyn wiseman. she works with schools across the country on bullying issues. she's also the author of "queen bees and wannabes: helping your daughter survive cliques, gossip, boyfriends, and the new in realities of the girl world." appreciate you all being with us. candi, you say the gay groups are using anti-bullying efforts to push what you say is a gay agenda, teaching kids about gay marriage and gays and lesbians and homosexuality. my question i guess is if there are gay kids in schools being
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bullied and even if there are kids who aren't gay but are perceived as that or are just being called the f word and harassed, how do you suggest stopping that if you can't mention anything about gays and lesbians? >> well, first let me just say that we absolutely think every child should be protected from bullying. we know that bullies target children for a myriad of reasons. it could be that they're a little overweight, they wear glasses, maybe they're a special needs child and maybe they do identify as gay or lesbian and we believe that all of those kids, without exception, should be protected from bullying. >> how do you do that, though, without mentioning gays or lesbians or mentioning race or any of those other things when you're trying to combat it? >> well, we think that bullying policies, bullying prevention policies would be most effective if they addressed the far-reaching nature of this problem, which is so many kids, 30% of american children, are dealing with this. so we really feel like the most
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effective policies and initiatives would be ones that protect any child against bullying for any reason. >> what does that mean? specifically, how do you do that? >> the correct focus would be preventing the wrong actions of the bully, not focusing on the characteristics of the victims. because it doesn't matter why the victim was targeted. what matters is that their harm -- harming them was wrong for any reason. >> okay. eliza, your group has been accused by focus on the family of spreading what they call a gay agenda in schools. why do you need to talk about or mention gays and lesbians in anti-bullying efforts? >> well, candi and i absolutely agree that all students need to be protected. the fact is, and the data bears out, if you don't mention the specific problem, teachers don't act and students don't have a better experience. our bill would cover all students but indicate specifically that you must also include attention to these characteristics. and when you do, our data shows
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rates of harassment and victimization of lgbt, lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students goes down. if you don't mention that, there's no effect. >> candi, are you opposed to mentioning, you know, issues of race or opposed to mentioning issues of, i don't know, disability or a myriad of other reasons kids could be taunted that you mentioned? are you okay with mentioning those things? and stopping anti- -- and trying to address anti-bullying? >> what we're in favor of are objective bullying policies that prevent bullying for any reason against any child. you know, i would be concerned if you started listing out too many categories. you're going to leave some kids off the list. what about overweight? what about kids that wear glasses? >> but can a teacher talk about that to a classroom? can a teacher say some people are taunted because of race? and let's talk about that or let's talk about being overweight and let's talk about that. is that okay for you? >> well, what we're responding to through our website,
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truetolerance.org, which spurred some of this discussion, is that we're hearing from parents that are having homosexuality lessons presented to their kindergartners in the name of anti-bullying and we don't feel that's necessary and even the most effective way to prevent bullying. >> let me bring in rosalyn on that to address that point. actually, rosalyn, let me come to you in a second. eliza, is that true? are you guys addressing -- >> listen, i think the first thing i want to say is that focus on the family has chosen and, candi, you have chosen to attack the safe schools improvement act. what we find is that when school level policies actually mention sexual orientation and gender identity, rates of bullying and harassment go down. and this is for all students. in 2005 students of all sexual orientations, races, religions told us when their school had this kind of policy in place, those students were less likely to say that bullying was a serious problem in their school. >> rosalyn, you work with schools all the time.
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you travel around the country. >> all the time. >> what do you actually see? a, do you see an agenda being spread? and can you address bullying -- focus on the family is saying focus on the bully. is that an effective program? >> well, two things. one is that as a counselor who is actually going to be administrating this program, you have so many things to do that usually what happens is even with all these mandates the best you're going to get is a 45-minute presentation with like 500 kids. because a lot of our programs in schools are at big schools. 3,000 kids. 2,500 kids. so the logistics of this make this pretty much impossible to be able to do. that's the first thing. second, this is not just about the gay kids in school. it's about everybody. because bullying does not exist without homophobia. kids are proving, they have to prove they belong to be men. they have to prove that, you know, you're in seventh grade and you say something, you're speaking out about something being cruel, then someone's going to say to you don't be gay. and that stops you from being able to say what you want to say, which is don't do it. and so that's literally teaching
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you to be paralyzed and to be silent in the face of cruelty. and so it's not just about the gay kids being safe, which i believe 100% they have the right to be. it is also about everybody in the school feeling that they have the right to speak out. and if we don't name this behavior, then we are going to lose it and it's going to go back to bullying in the playground is the problem and we're going to lose all of the improvements that we've made. >> candi, the idea of naming that behavior, you're opposed to, yes? >> well, i would be in favor of a teacher directly confronting a child bullying another child that's identified as gay. i think that should be stopped. but our viewpoint comes from the belief that all human beings, all students are created in god's image and they deserve to be protected because they are a human being, uniquely created by god with innate dignity and worth and not because of the political subgroup they identify with or how they identify sexually. that's how we think these bullying policies should be based, widespread, neutral protection.
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>> anderson, can i say, but in all respect -- in all respect, it does not in any way reflect the reality of what schools are like. so we can have policies that are about ideal reality or we can have policy that's are about concrete reality and reflect what children are experiencing. and that's when we become relevant to young people. if you don't, it doesn't work. >> why don't you focus on the bully? if you read the focus on the family -- >> you have to do both. >> what they are saying is they basically have a three-page thing saying bullying is bad, you should, you know, punish the bullies, not tolerate it, not tolerate people, you know, attacking anybody who's come forward to speak. what's wrong with just that? >> because when you do that, it becomes a gray area and it becomes a he said/she said or he said/he said thing. and it becomes a way of it's on -- the onus is on the victim to be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that what has happened to him or what has happened to her is so difficult
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that it's impossible for them to be able to go to school. right? that's what we're doing. that's what we're talking about. if you take out the language of naming the behavior it becomes so amorphous there's nothing to talk about. there's no place to talk. there's no place for that kid to define what's happening to them and they also feel like they're so ashamed that they can't talk about it. these words are not allowed to be talked about. and so then they lose the whole process and the whole ability to have the conversation and they become silent. >> but you know, there's certainly a lot of parents who, you know, don't believe that being gay or being lesbian is okay and don't want their kids, especially very young kids, exposed to that. do you think this should be mandatory for everybody? >> the safe schools improvement act is about behavior, not beliefs. and as a common ground issue, apart from any other kind of diversity curriculum or the importance of respecting the diverse society, just looking at the safe schools improvement act and the problem of bullying, when you name the problem people act. teachers in schools that have these policies are more likely to stop this, and kids are less
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likely to be harassed and victimized and essentially, as rosalind is referring to, bullying is a dynamic in a classroom. bullies need our help. victims need our help. and bystanders need our help. they need adults to act, to take care of the culture of that classroom and build a culture of respect. >> candi, very briefly, i want to give you the final thought. >> well, what we're concerned about are the parents that we're getting phone calls from that don't want controversial sexual topics introduced to their kids without their permission, especially at the kindergarten level. and that's why we wanted to say that this issue doesn't need to be politicized. we don't need to bring adult political agendas into it. we want all kids to be protected from bullying for any reason, regardless of how they identify. >> candi cushman, i appreciate you being on. eliza byard as well and rosalind wiseman. >> their life has changed a lot. we'll show new new video ahead.
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imagine not having a hot meal for about a month. well, for the first time since being trapped underground, which was more than three weeks ago, the 33 miners in chile tonight are having a hot dinner. it's a milestone in their ordeal and comes as rescue workers have finally begun to drill to free them. now, you remember the first video that we showed you friday night of their situation underground. well, we have new video tonight. it seems their situation has improved a lot. it's tonight's "360 dispatch." take a look. >> reporter: for the 33 men this is their lifeline, one of three narrow tubes that brings them bottles of water, food, and medicine. also supplies needed to sustain them for months underground. the latest video taken by the miners offers encouraging new details about their subterranean existence. "there's nothing done without order," says mario sepulveda, who's become the spokesman for the men. "everything here is at hand," he says, "and everything you need, you see." unlike last week's footage, several men are seen in shirts, clean shaven and apparently in better health.
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when the ordeal began, the men were given only liquid vitamins and protein. now they're being sent sandwiches, yogurt and cereal. for dinner wednesday night, they're having meatballs and rice. "we've been eating according to the diet you sent us," mario sepulveda says. beds have also arrived piece by piece through the pipe, though not enough for all. beds are given to those who need them the most, he says. here the phone they use to communicate with officials and loved ones and to show us that their sense of humor is intact, "we put the phone over here so each one can have some privacy," he says. "chilean men are very macho and don't like people to see us cry." joking despite a disaster. another promising sign for the men who now have mp3 players and speakers. "the music has arrived, and we're organizing today's party," he says. "we're super happy and we've been dancing to a couple songs." 2,300 feet above, a drill cuts into the earth, beginning of what everyone prays is the end. the families of the miners are
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nearby in tents. they call it camp hope. "we're happy because the drill has arrived," the wife of one miner says. "we're happy because we know they'll rescue them." back in the mine, a strange sight. a white pickup truck once used to ferry the men to work is now a place to sleep for one of the miners. the truck is an area they'll move to as the rescues crews draw closer. the video ends with a chant for their country -- and with the message of unity and patriotism. "to all of chile," he says. "if we felt proud about our country and chilean mining before, we feel even more proud today because of what's being done." we're following several other important stories tonight. isha sesay joins us with the "360 bulletin." isha? the dutch government has freed two men arrested monday on suspicion of terrorism after flight from chicago. they are citizens of yemen and were in the u.s. legally. alarms were raised by suspicious
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items in their checked luggage. an investigation turned up no evidence of terrorist activity. the imam who wants to build an islamic center and mosque near ground zero returns to new york tomorrow. feisal abdul rauf has been in the middle east for two weeks on an outreach mission for the state department. his planned center has sparked a national debate over religious freedom versus the sensitivities of 9/11 families. and apple is reintroducing a new and much smaller version of apple tv and slashing the price to $99 from $299. one new feature, anderson, tv shows can be rented for just 99 cents. >> that's cool. >> i have to tell you, i'm thinking about relocating to my sofa, changing my cell phone message saying isha can't be reached right now, she's watching every episode of "grey's anatomy" ever made. that's what i'm thinking. >> are you a "grey's anatomy" fan? >> i am. >> really? >> aren't you? >> i've never actually watched it. >> what would you disappear to your sofa to watch? >> i like "breaking bad" on amc.
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that's just me. >> good choice, anderson. just ahead, a big night at the white house. peace talks open between israelis and palestinians. just a few hours ago optimistic remarks made by both sides. david gergen joins us tonight to go over what was said and what needs to be done next. [car horn honks] our outback always gets us there... ... sometimes it just takes us a little longer to get back. ♪
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mideast leaders have been trying and failing to solve the israeli-palestinian conflict, with u.s. presidents caught in the middle, for generations. tonight, after preliminary discussions in advance of formal talks tomorrow between israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas, president obama said the two sides had made progress. here's prime minister netanyahu. >> president abbas, you are my partner in peace. and it is up to us, with the help of our friends, to conclude the agonizing conflict between our peoples and to afford them a
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new beginning. >> so is this a new beginning or is this like so many beginnings that we've seen before in years past? joining us now is senior political analyst david gergen. david, thanks very much for being with us. you know, what do you make of the statements made tonight by benjamin netanyahu? a perennial skeptic when it comes to palestinian statehood. you know, often referred to u.s.-backed peace talks as a waste of time. today he said, and i quote, "we seek a peace that will end the conflict between us once and for all." is this a big deal? >> anderson, there are signs of hope. tempered hope, to be sure. the fact the two sides are sitting down, talking to each other directly for the first time in almost two years, that's progress. the fact that after intense provocation, with hamas shooting israelis in the west bank, both leaders vowed tonight, palestinian and israeli leaders vowed tonight they wouldn't let terrorists derail these talks. the fact that president obama
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got egyptian president and king abdullah of jordan to come there giving arab backing to this, that helps the palestinian cause. as anyone who has watched this over the years knows, the odds are still long. we've got something coming up september 26th, netanyahu has to decide whether he's going to extend the freeze on settlements. and that's -- whole talks could collapse very shortly if he decides to go forward. but there's a lot of pressure in israel to have some kind of settlements. >> how much rides on president obama for this? i mean, is it -- is there a lot riding on it for him? i mean, obviously, if there's progress, that reflects well on him. but if there's not, i mean, is there any blowback for that? >> well, we have seen in the past when president clinton got deeply involved and president bush got deeply involved, they made progress and then things failed and there was renewed violence. so you can go backwards if you try too hard. what's interesting here, anderson, is that king abdullah of jordan called directly on president obama tonight to
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inject himself to be the leader in these talks. and just last night, of course, president obama gave a speech to this country saying we're pivoting, we're going to make jobs and the economy here at home my central concern in this administration. within 24 hours he's off launching this critical new phase in the middle east which is going to demand his time. i think a lot of americans will get whiplash watching this. so from my perspective, anderson, i think it's going to be really important that he give hillary clinton and george mitchell, her negotiator, a lot of responsibility in these early months while he focuses on the economy. i just don't see how he can go off and spend sort of kissingerian time on the middle east. i don't think that serves the country's interest and i just don't think he's going to want to do that right now. >> david gergen, we'll continue to watch tomorrow. thanks, david. up next, staving environment with style. how you can look good by going green.
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one company has come one a way to wear collections. with the one simple thing, here's search the any. >> reporter: ask new yorkers how they get rid of clothe thez don't want anymore, you're likely to get the same answer. ? just thank you them in the trash. >> i would just throw it away. >> it turns out tech times make up about 6% of new york's waste a year. amounts to about 386 million pounds of tech times headinged to our waste stream. that can be reused for other purposes. >> wearable collections is helping new yorkers cut that number down. >> we true to make it as easy as possible to recycle their clothing. to recycle clothing as it is to recycle their cans, bottles and newspapers. the company's bins collect fabric and clothes in about 150 apartment buildings across the city. how much do you get on a daily basis for that?
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>> anywhere from 3,000 to 4,000 pounds. >> some banana republic jeans here. they look perfectly fine. they're a really good quality. >> somebody will wear these again. fine quality. >> fine quality jacket there. and a skirt as well. it also collects textiles at various collections like these green markets. ? if i had to go 40 block out of my way or even ten block out of my way, i probably wouldn't donate. it is too much trouble to go. >> reporter: serving then sold to a sorgt facility and they give 20% of their gross proceeds to partnering charities. >> we're creating money from used clothing. >> on any given months i can write check from 10 to 20 charities. the checks are anywhere from $50 to $300, $400. >> reporter: from there, some of the clothes are reused as secondhand apparel. the vest shredded into fibers for thing like carpet padding, seat con

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